PG&E Raises Rates for Pot Growers
Not that we're very surprised, but this month's electricity rate hike is so substantial and well-targeted that we just had to tell everyone about it.
Growers looking closely at their power bills this month might notice a marked increase in the rates for top tier power usage. PG&E likes to divvy up your electricity charges into different "Baseline Quantities", charging more per Kwh when you use more power than they think you need.
This is fine for those of us who turn our lights off when we leave the room, shut our computers down at night, and keep our thermostats set low. But for the many thousands of households where residents are running multiple high wattage horticulture lamps, dehumidifiers, and industrial exhaust fans, those baseline charges could be a big deal.
This month PG&E increased rates for the "Over 300% of Baseline" tier by nearly 15%, and the next tier down by over 13%. The bottom two tiers, aka the non-grower tiers, actually went down in price by a couple hundredths of a penny.
Last month's power rates
This month's new prices
This is kind of a big deal, but only for growers. For the rest of us it's actually a little satisfying to know that pot growers who are using 100 times the amount of electricity as a normal household (no joke) now have to pay an additional 15% premium for their excessive consumption. But is it right for PG&E to purposefully implement what is essentially a grower tax? We would much rather see a real tax where the money comes back to the community somehow, but for now it's nice to know that at least someone out there is skimming a little off the top of the most profitable (and questionable) industry in California.
Should pot dealers and smokers expect prices of indoor marijuana to increase this year because of the beefed up electricity charges? Definitely not, because the profit margins on marijuana are still so astronomically high that an additional 5 cents per Kwh is quite literally a drop in the bucket for these guys. Consider that a 4-light indoor pot garden will generally yield 4 pounds of bud every 60 days. Running that garden will cost about $1000 in electricity each month, plus maybe $1500 in rent per month, and maybe $350 in supplies and upkeep. Oh let's throw in $40 for water, too. So it's about $2890 per month to operate that grow house. But quality indoor marijuana sells for at least $3600/pound these days, and this house is producing 4 pounds every 2 months. That leaves the grower with a profit of $8620 every two months, or $4310 a month.
And that is a really small grow scenario. Most growers would laugh at 4 lights because they're probably doing twice that, and you don't even want to start speculating about how many growers here in Humboldt County have multiple grow houses, each with 8 or more lights.
Speaking of marijuana prices this year, word on the street is that the big outdoor harvests from Southern Humboldt and Mendocino County are far, far bigger than ever before. Last year it rained early and caused lots of losses, but this year the rains have been light and the weather has been warm and sunny, allowing many growers to leave their crops in the ground much longer than normal. We have been hearing reports of double-sized yields over last year, and quality is unbelievable. As a result, prices are looking to be a bit lower this winter, which might put a strain on some indoor growers looking to unload their goods. But uh, we're definitely not offering any sympathy, seeing as how margins in the pot business are so ridiculously high it actually makes us sick.
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By Joe Cornish, on Oct 23, 2008 - 10:02Thank you so much for setting me, well, straight.
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the facts
By abbie, on Oct 28, 2008 - 12:11Dear Abbie
By pro, on Oct 28, 2008 - 14:52Your estimates are off
By Guerrilla in the Midst, on Oct 28, 2008 - 15:27$1000 per month?
The only time I read something like this is when someone is trying to disparage pot growers. I never read newbie calculations of how much it costs to grow orchids, venus fly traps, cacti, etc. Nor tomatoes, basil, lettuce... you name your cash crop. If it isn't about pot, the ignorant don't act like authorities about the reality of indoor horticulture, they ask questions.
It is true that the profit margin is very high compared to other crops. I would estimate the profit margin to be around seven times what one would make growing a legal crop even given the quality issues associated with pot. The big difference between those who undertake intensive cultivation of pot as opposed to any other plant is the frequency of stupid methods being used when growing pot.
The destructive people who do stupid things are likely also terrible at growing plants. The grow houses that catch on fire aren't yielding anywhere near optimal as a smart person wouldn't be starting a fire in the first place.
An experienced grower profits far more than your estimates. A bad grower profits far, far less. Unfortunately for landlords and the environment, stupid people are the majority.
humboldt sucks
By b, on Dec 2, 2008 - 22:48the bums suck... that can be changed... this town would plunder and homes would be worth half of what they are now... respect your neighboors and leave them alone!!!
humboldt sucks
By freakin mormon hicks, on Dec 2, 2008 - 22:49the bums suck... that can be changed... this town would plunder and homes would be worth half of what they are now... respect your neighboors and leave them alone!!!
what
By taxes, on Mar 4, 2009 - 18:41most people pay taxes on what they spend just like the rest of the world. You think a rich dope grower can buy a new hummer without a freaking tax form. Duh just the same as the rest of the world they pay taxes and they spend their money which inures more taxes, 7.25% to be exact.
By the way blogger you forgot alot of the costs inferred like clones for a four lighter cost anywhere from 1000 to 2000 dollars depending on how many you plant. manacurist for four pounds is 800 to 900. and if your landlord is hip to your grow you can expect more than 1500 in rent. Basically a four lighter is like a low paying caltrans job. more like 2000 a month.
Time to go green, and invest in solar!
By JasonD, on Mar 5, 2009 - 21:02What is cheaper than a $8,000.00 monthly electric bill?
Installing solar panels to offset the electrical use, at that rate, and installing a couple diffused sun-windows in the roof.
Soon, it will all be legal and regulated. We will no longer be able to produce it cheaper than they can, and it won't be worth the risk of being robbed, or having a valuable house burned down.
Rent a lot, and build inside recycled freight-containers. Wake-up, homes are not acceptable for growing anymore. Get something big, metal, fireproof, cheap, easy to transport, easy to resell, and easy to secure.
Go green... Literally!
Will these assholes ever stop stepping on peoples freedoms and rights.
Or are they hell bent on making this a Nazi socialist society.
What about the others with their hands in the cookie jar?
By humboldthappiness, on Dec 20, 2009 - 12:25BTW-- 70% of all money in the Humboldt community is from the growth of pot. And pot growers do pay taxes. They can't buy a house unless they show income. If they show 100, 000 gross, then they pay Federal and State taxes on that money. Why don't you stop hating people and just live your own life? Ask yourself why you are really happy that other people pay more for electricity than you do, and be honest about it. It's just jealousy is all.
grow it outside!
By mork, on Dec 12, 2010 - 18:24Haters all of you!!!
By illegalGrower, on Jan 5, 2011 - 0:22You have a choice other than PG&E
By Susan H, on Feb 8, 2013 - 5:41Hiking up the Rates hurts the entire community!
By Expectant Mother and College Graduate whom can't find a good paying job!, on Sep 30, 2014 - 5:51You guys are blind!
By Hating the hate!, on Sep 6, 2015 - 14:03